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Analog vs. Digital Meter October 2013

I have an old Triplett analog multimeter and a new, no-name digital multimeter. A friend told me that, even though I can read out voltage to the second decimal place, my old Triplett is more accurate. I'm confused about the accuracy/precision difference. Can you clarify?

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Katy Aricanli
Phoenix, AZ



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Your question reflects common confusion between the interrelated terms accuracy, resolution, linearity, and offset with respect to measuring instruments. Application ought to also be considered.


Your Triplett uses a moving-coil instrument having a pointer attached to the coil and a set of printed scales behind the pointer: The position of the pointer has a direct, analogous relationship to the amount of current flowing through the meter movement, hence the name "analog" in describing the instrument.  The value of the current, voltage, or resistance being measured is interpolated from the appropriate printed scale at the point directly under the pointer position.


The digital voltmeter samples the applied voltage and produces a digital reading proportional to that voltage; the digital value presented is derived from a binary counter/register. Conversion from the analog measurement to digital presentation is commonly effected by feeding the digital readout value back through a digital-to-analog converter and comparing the converter voltage output to the (scaled) voltage of the original sample; the readout count is advanced until the comparison is "equal" (see next), at which point the digital readout indicates — as best as possible — the voltage being measured. In this implementation, the internal system counts in binary and the least-significant counter bit is not displayed, whence the displayed value cannot be closer to the true value than ±½ the value of the least-significant digit in the display.


Both systems are affected by accuracy and linearity. The accuracy of the instrument expresses the limitation on its ability to indicate the true value of that which is being measured.   "Accuracy" is expressed as a fractional deviation from unity: For a voltmeter, for example, its accuracy is equal to [1 - (Vindicated/Vmeasured)] — thus, if a DC voltage is truly 100 volts, but the instrument indicates 101 volts (or 99 volts), then the instrument is inaccurate by a factor of ±1/100 and its accuracy is said to be ±1%. Accuracy is affected by environmental conditions as well as inherent inaccuracies in its component parts (e.g., internal voltage dividers, etc.).


The linearity of the instrument expresses its ability to maintain its stated accuracy at any measurement value.   Digital-to-analog converters have linearity issues and contribute this problem in digital measuring instruments. Analog instruments depend upon a linear relationship between pointer position and the restoring torque of the coil-position return spring.


Accuracy specifications commonly include the worst effects of linearity in the instrument for a measurement of any value within the specified measurement range, and within the stated environmental conditions.


Resolution is all too often confused with accuracy. Resolution relates to the ability of the observer to identify the measurement value being presented by the instrument. In an analog instrument, the resolution is the smallest value printed on the instrument scale (the least-significant "tick" on the scale). If your Triplett is like mine (a model 630PL), it has a voltage-measurement scale for the 0-10/0-50/0-250 -volt ranges, and there are ten "ticks" between each numeric value: The resolution of the instrument depends, therefore, upon the voltage range in use, and is 0.2 volts on the 10-volt scale, 1 volt on the 50-volt scale, and 5 volts on the 250-volt scale. Stated another way, as there are a total of 50 ticks on the 10/50/250-volt scale, the instrument resolution is 1/50th (or 2%) of full-scale, and this is generally the way in which resolution is expressed for an analog instrument.


In a digital instrument, the resolution is equal to the number of digit positions being displayed, and herein lies the confusion between resolution and accuracy. Let us consider a 4-digit display (= its resolution), having an accuracy of ±1%. If a DC voltage of 50 volts (true value) is measured, the display might read "50.37". For ±1% accuracy, the instrument reading must be within the interval 49.5 to 50.5 volts. The best that we can expect is three digits' accuracy, and thus a reading of "50.37" creates an expectation of 0.1% accuracy, when in reality we should interpret the reading as 50.4 volts — that is, the displayed value rounded to three digits. Resolution and accuracy are independent qualities.


But this brings up the matter of application: Digital instruments use a continuous sequence of sampling and measurement to produce their readings.  Digital instruments are best used for steady-state conditions — e.g., a voltmeter on a bench power supply — else they will attempt to read changing values and produce a blur of digits that is frequently impossible to read. I'm partial to analog instruments because I rarely need extreme resolution but I like the inherent ability of the analog instrument to average over variations in the measurement value. For example, my old Prius has passed its warranty date and I'd like to tinker with the electrical system —at least to the point of inserting a zero-center ammeter measuring shunt into the high-voltage bus at the battery terminal.  The current demand on the propulsion battery is rarely constant and can shift in value and even polarity from moment to moment. A moving-coil instrument is perfect for this, as it will give me an indication of magnitude and direction of current flow on a continuous basis. This would never be possible using a digital instrument.


Finally, the matter of offset: Offset is a constant value difference between true value and indicated value. It is most important that your Triplett instrument be zeroed. With the pointer at rest and the selector switch in the OFF position, and with the instrument oriented in the position commonly used (either standing up or lying down), use the setscrew over the coil pivot point to adjust the pointer so that it lies directly over the "0" mark on the scale. When the instrument is used for resistance measurement, use the Ohms Adjust control with the test leads shorted together to ensure that the pointer lies over the "0" ohms mark on the scale.


Offsets are much less likely to occur in digital instruments because suitable compensations can be built into the design. The one exception that I can think of would be associated with high-input-impedance instruments (solid-state or vacuum-tube voltmeters, for example) in which electrochemical differences between measurement probes and the surfaces being probed might cause slight offset voltages for which internal compensation would not apply.


I hope the above discussion answers your question.


One of my frequent gripes is the marketing of the term "accurate". In my local hardware store there is a shelf containing outdoor thermometers. The advertising blurbs on the packages all state that the instrument has "guaranteed accuracy". "Accuracy" without a stated value is a meaningless term. It's easy to guarantee a meaningless statement. And of course, for the digital varieties of these instruments, the manufacturer is quite content to let the buyer equate resolution with accuracy. (The best way to buy a thermometer at the hardware store is to examine all of the specimens on the shelf of the model desired, and choose the one that best represents the group consensus, excluding those having markedly different readings.)

Peter Goodwin
Rockport, MA

This question reminds me of when I was a physics lab instructor when I was a graduate student. But, I'll spare you the calculator and significant digits issue.


In the case of your digital instrument we have a similar situation in that just because the meter shows a voltage to two or three decimal places, it does not mean it can actually measure that accurately or that it was calibrated to that level accuracy.


Most meters come with specifications which tell us how accurate the measurement is likely to be. I have here in my desk at work a meter, DT-830B, so I went to the web for the "user's manual for DT830B" and found one.


For resistance it says:
Range: 200 Ohms
Resolution: 0.1 Ohm
Accuracy: +/- 1.2% +/- 5D


At 200 Ohms 1.2% is +/- 2.4 Ohms so when the meter reads 100.0 Ohms, we can only know that the value is somewhere between: 98.8 - 101.2 Ohms +/- 5D


Nowhere is +/- 5D explained. It should be +/- 5 in the least significant digit which means in this case it would change the measured value to between: 98.3 - 101.7 Ohms.


That being the case, then if the meter reads 2.0 Ohms we have +/- 1.2% or 1.96 - 2.04, but we can't see that since the meter only goes to #.#, BUT +/- 5D would mean that the meter would show anything between 1.5 - 2.5 Volts which is +/- 25% of the measured value! You see, the +/-5D becomes significantly more important the smaller the measured value becomes, where as the % follows the measured value.


To know which meter is better you would have to find these specifications for each meter. But also know this, "Accuracies are guaranteed for 1 year, 23degress C +/- 5 degrees, less that 75% RH" or whatever your meter manufacturer claims.


Also, it all depends on if we can trust the standards the instrument was calibrated against as well. With an unknown meter, made who knows where, we don't know what standards they are calibrating against. Which is why I test anything I buy against my best meter.


Now, how would we create our own voltage, and resistance standards?

Philip Karras
via email

The difference between accuracy and precision is important. I have read several technical articles lately which confuse the two terms. Accuracy is a measure of how close the indicated value is to the actual value.


For instance, a 100 ohm 1% must be between 99 and 101 ohms. If you measure it with a DVM and it reads 99.9 ohms, you have measured it with a precision of 0.1 ohms. If your DVM reads 200.53 ohms you have measured it with a precision of 0.01 ohms but the accuracy is terrible.


A good analog meter with a mirror scale can usually be read with a precision of three digits, for instance: using a 5V range you should be able to resolve within 0.01 volts. An average DVM, 3 1/2 digits, should be able to resolve within 1 millivolt on a similar range.


Both of these examples refer only to the precision of the device - not the accuracy. The accuracy is determined by other mechanisms. For the DVM it is both the A/D and its reference. For the analog meter, it is the linearity of the meter movement. For both devices, the accuracy is also determined by the other system components such as the resistors which form the voltage dividers.

Larry Cicchinelli
via email

Precision is a subjective term when relating to meters, especially when comparing analog (i.e., your Triplett with moving needle movement) and digital meters. The main differences between the two meters are these:

  1) Display readability (numbers are easier to read than a meter needle)
  2) Input impedance (The Triplett's is a few tens of kilohms to a couple hundred kilohms vs. a couple MEGOHMS for the digital meter - this directly affects the absolute accuracy of the voltages you're measuring)


For a typical digital meter with 3-1/2 digits (a leading 1 plus 3 whole digits, the precision is defined thusly for each range:

  200mV range = +/- 100 uV (microvolts)
  2V range       = +/- 1mV (millivolts)
  20V range     = +/- 10 mV
  200V range   = +/- 100 mV
  2000V range = +/- 1V

As you can calculate, the precision of the digital for all ranges will be "0.05%".


For the Triplett, your precision will be determined by the THICKNESS of the meter needle next to the scale, the SIZE of the scale and its' gradation, and YOUR EYESIGHT as follows (I'm guessing as to the available ranges here!):

  1.5V range  = +/- 0.01V (10 millivolts)
  15V range   = +/- 0.1V (100 millivolts)
  150V range    = +/- 1V
  1000V range  = +/- 10V

As you can calculate, the "precision" for the Triplett will be "0.67%" for all ranges.


Therefore, with the figures above, it looks like the digital is more precise, measurement-wise, than the Triplett.  HOWEVER, this doesn't take into account the environment you're measuring in, the quality of test leads, the quality of the measured signal (i,e, "noise"), and other factors that can make the Triplett more precise than the digital because analog meters generally aren't as susceptible to noise in the signal like digitals are. Again, with analog meters (i.e., the Triplett), if you don't/can't read the meter properly, any precision will be wasted on a poor measurement (i.e., using the AC scale for a DC measurement!). Therefore, it's up to the meter user to ensure things are done right.

Ken Simmons
Auburn, WA

First of all, few analog VOMs (volts-ohm-milliameter) are as accurate/precise as even the cheapest DMM (digital multimeter). Accuracy refers to how close a meter's reading is to the actual voltage. Precision refers to how finely you can resolve this reading. The terms are not interchangeable. A DMM with 8-1/2 digits of readout may be precise, but isn't necessarily accurate if it is incorrectly calibrated. A DMM with 2-1/2 digits of readout may not be that precise, but could be more accurate than that poorly-calibrated 8-1/2 digit DMM. High precision allows you to track small changes in the quantity being measured.  But for all practical purposes, it's difficult to find a high-precision DMM that is not also very accurate if it's been calibrated to specifications recently.


You may contact me through the N&V Forum and request an article I wrote comparing all sorts of meters: VOMs, VTVMs, TVMs, DMMs and differential voltmeters. It's a freebie in .pdf form that I'd be glad to e-mail to you.  If enough readers request it, I'll simply post it on the N&V Forum, so stay tuned!  The Forum is at http://forum.nutsvolts.com where you click on the "General Discussion" forum.

Dean Huster
via email

First, any time you measure a voltage relative to ground you will have a current flow through the meter and an error inversely proportional to the resistance of the meter. The older analog meter has a higher resistance per measured volt, and causes a smaller error. Typically an expensive analog may have 2 meg ohms/volt, a cheap digital might have 20K ohms/volt.


Accuracy is the average of a large number of measurements, precision is getting the same measured value every time. The difference is kind of like looking at shots on a target. Accuracy is like a large pattern around the center and precision is like a tight group somewhere on the target. Ideally, you want both, but it is easier to compensate for the difference between the center of the target (the real value) and the shot group (the measured value), than it is to compensate for an unknown value and unknown direction from center.

Jack Mowery
Amarillo, TX


Surplus Parts for Amps October 2013

I'm just getting into guitar amplifiers, and I'm having a hard time finding parts — tubes, transformers, and high-voltage capacitors that are affordable. What are the best surplus sources, short of taking apart old amps?

#10138
Steven Sewal
via email



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All Electronics has most parts for tube amplifiers. [email protected] has some good information on building tube guitar amplifiers and finding parts.

Edwin Fitzpatrick
Ellijay, GA

Antique Radio Supply at www.tubesandmore.com is a good source for tube-era components. Right here in the pages of N&V, Canadians David and Babylyn Cantelon advertise tubes, capacitors and resistors for tube-era electronics and are at www.justradios.com.

Dean Huster
via email


Where Does a Kid Start? October 2013

My 10 year old wants to start building circuits. What's a good resource for easy, safe, one hour projects for the younger set?

#10137
Judy Boyer
via email



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I certainly agree with the esteemed Forrest Mims III booklets! However, the best resource may well relate to your 10 YO's motivation, learning style, hand skills and — lets face it — reading age and maths ability. Is he "as keen as mustard" or is this just a passing phase between skateboards and basketball?


I got e-started myself (rather in isolation due to a rural lifestyle) at much that age, back — sigh — in the early 1960s, in fact! This was valve/tube & pre- Internet, but I was both a bookworm and patient "hands on" explorer, so made pretty steady progress.


Components these days are pretty cheap — often free if rescued from e-waste, but basics are still needed. These all up now may only cost ~$20 and include some simple hand tools, crocodile clip leads, a solderless breadboard, assorted solid core wires, and a DMM (digital multimeter).


Switched 3 x AA battery packs are usually all you need now for a power supply. Assorted PC simulators (many are free) are wonderful too - the UK "Crocodile Clips" (now Yenka) remains appealing in spite of it's late '90s vintage.


A great starter kit these days are the "Snap Connector" sets. They readily modify to other circuits — even microcontrollers. Refer my PICAXEd approach on the basic "80 in 1" kit. www.instructables.com/id/quotSnap-connectorquot-PICAXE-microcontroller/


You really need a patient adult to guide however, as simple mistakes and techniques (soldering especially) can otherwise be MEGA FRUSTRATING. Retired radio hams have a long "Elmer" tradition of assisting youngsters, and may be especially suitable.

Stan Swan
Wellington, NZ

Try a search on: "Educational Electronics Kits For Students." You'll find things like the Learning Project Lab sets at RadioShack and other places, Electronic Snap Circuits (Elenco SC-300), and more.


Ask some of the advertisers in Nuts & Volts! I'm sure I've seen similar electronics lab sets advertised here from time to time. I know that www.allelectronics.com has a small learning lab with nine lessons, "TRONIX JR. ELECTRONICS LEARNING LAB."


Also try places like www.arrl.org and http://store.cq-amateur-radio.com/Categories.bok and look for books on beginning electronics.

Philip Karras
via email

Check out your local RadioShack and search out some of their publications written by Forrest Mims III. His projects are straightforward and simple and Forrest has a lot of years teaching electronics and writing educational articles for electronics hobbyist magazines. Most of the parts he uses in his circuits are available at RadioShack.

Dean Huster
via email

The best place for your 10 year old to start in electronics is your local RadioShack!  Check out this page from their web site: www.radioshack.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=4446519&allCount=150&fbc=1&f=PAD%2FProduct+Type%2FLearning+kits&fbn=Type%2FLearning+kits&filterName=Type&filterValue=Learning+kits


I suggest starting with one of the smaller "x-in-one" lab kits (i.e., the "Elenco" one). If your kid is really bright, the Model: 28-280 Electronics Learning Lab might be a good place to start. Once the kid starts to understand things more (say, in a few years), visit kit sites like Ramsey Electronics (www.ramseyelectronics.com) and Velleman (www.vellemanusa.com/home/?country=us&lang=enu), or even review the RadioShack link above for "starter" kits to assemble. If you have a Fry's Electronics store in your area, they carry Ramsey and Velleman kits.


FWIW, I started my "electronics career" when I was in Junior High (1975?) with the RadioShack "100-in-one" Electronic Lab kit. It wasn't long before I was building more complex solder kits.  Even today (at 53) the skills I learned from that RadioShack trainer are still in use on my job. If your kid displays an aptitude for electronics, see if your local Junior and/or High schools have electronics curricula and definitely check out your local Community Colleges or Trade School" for 2-year Associate Electronics Technician programs (where I got my Electronics Career started, O' those many years ago).

Ken Simmons
Auburn, WA


Battery Disposal October 2013

I have a box full of old lithium batteries. I know they're not supposed to be put in the normal trash, but I don't want to pay a fee to have 'hazardous waste' removed. Is there a safe, environmental friendly way for me to dispose of the batteries that won't cost me time and money?

#10136
Erik Prichard
Ft Wayne, IN



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Home Depot and Lowe's, accept your old rechargeable batteries. Best Buy also does, plus they will accept your discarded electronics too.

Mike Carland
Santa Clarita, CA

Visit your local Lowes store. The ones in my area of the East Coast have a recycling bin near the returns desk that takes CFL's and rechargeable batteries. No muss or fuss, just drop them in!


Home Depot also takes them at the customer service desk. I just box them and mark the box 'Battery Recycling' and there has been no problem.

Len Powell
Finksburg, MD

Many stores (Lowes is one I know of) have bins to drop off various types of used batteries for recycling.

George Gray
via email

Stores such as WalMart usually have "fishbowls" at the jewelry counter for depositing coin batteries. I would imagine that jewelry stores and hearing aid centers would also have disposal options that may not be limited to themselves or their customers only.


Worse than coin batteries which are used to a lesser extent, D, C, 9V and especially AA and AAA batteries are a bigger problem for disposal. These days, manufacturers are using batteries for power far more than in years past, finding that UL approval is much easier under battery power. And if it's electronic, it has a remote or something wireless and the larger batteries abound.


Some cities have recycling centers. Again, WalMart may have a recycling plan. There are stores that deal only in batteries and they may be able to recycle. Many "big box" stores have recycling available for rechargeable batteries. You just have to ask at places dealing with products that are prone to battery power.

Dean Huster
via email

I used to have to walk (I'm carless by choice) a long distance to dispose of batteries and CFL lamps. Now, in the city of Santee, CA, I just take 'em to Home Depo.

GFH
Santee, CA


Audio Amp ICs October 2013

I need a good, single-source audio amp IC for a project. The LM-386 isn't powerful enough. Is there a 'super' LM-386 op-amp that's also single-source (only one power connection)?

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Doug Schacter
via email



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The LM-386 and its kin usually require a big capacitor between the amp and the speaker because the output is offset up from ground by 1/2 VCC. I like the BTL (bridge tied load) amplifiers, which are basically push-pull, and require no capacitor in the output. The TDA7056AT is my favorite. Supply up to 18VDC, but works great anywhere from 5VDC up. Provides about 3W into 16 ohms at 12VDC supply. It also has a DC volume control input, so you're not running audio through the volume pot, which can introduce noise. I made an MP3 player with it and it belts out the sound. It pulls some current, though, to get that much power. I used a 9.6V RC power pack to power it!


he TDA7056AT is in a 16-pin wide SO surface-mount package, but SO is at an 0.05" spacing, which is not bad for hand soldering. (A magnifier helps.) Certainly not as bad as the 0.5mm spacing on the QFP parts!!! Hope this helps! BTW, I think TI has a mono BTL amplifier in a DIP package, but it doesn't have the DC volume control function, IIRC...

Dale Reed
Cleveland Heights, OH

The LM380 is the 2 watt "big brother" to the LM386.

George Gray
via email

Depending on your power and voltage requirements, I would suggest the LM380 or LM384. I have used both of these parts many times over the years. The LM380 is available in a 8-pin or 14-pin package. Unless you are trying to get more than 1 watt out of the part, you probably won't need a heat sink. Just put a large copper area on your PCB for pins 3,4,5,10,11,12. Both parts are available from Mouser or Digi-Key.

Ray Buck
Phoenix, AZ


Can Resistors Make the Difference? October 2013

I'm working on an audiophile-quality all-transistor amp. I was told that carbon film resistors are less noisy than wire-wound precision resistors — which are more expensive. Could I hear the difference in resistors? Is there a theoretical noise difference?

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Allan Perali
Decatur, IL



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Carbon composition resistors are THE WORST THINGS TO USE in an audiophile amp as their "absolute value" tolerances range from 10-20%. Plus, their "absolute resistance" values are very susceptible to heating and cooling effects (i.e., they get warm and their resistance changes — sometimes dramatically!).


Instead of using wire-wounds, use metal-film resistors. Their tolerances are 5% or less, they're very stable overall, and aren't as susceptible to temperature effects like carbons, AND they're much cheaper than wire-wounds.

Ken Simmons
Auburn, WA


PWM Power and Short-circuit Protection October 2013

I'm trying to design a PWM circuit to control power to a resistive heater strip for my camera/telescope. Recently, my nice commercial unit let the magic smoke out after a short on the output side, so I'm not eager to replace it with another of the same make.

The problem is I'm a complete newbie. I'm using a 4093 for the PWM part of the circuit and a pMOSFET (IRF9510) for the power switching. If I didn't want the short-circuit protection, I would be done. I've found a few schematics online but am not sure how to integrate them into my circuit.


Here's the schematic (Figure 1) I've put together, however, there are two things that bother me. First, I've essentially glued the short-circuit protection onto the output of the pMOSFET which means I have another diode drop in the output. That seems like it should be unnecessary and it seems like I ought to be able to put the IRF9510 where the SK100 is, but I'm not sure how to do that correctly.

Second, the whole thing will be powered off a marine battery and I'd like some input protection/isolation of the control part to avoid the possibility of frying the 4093 from transients when hooking up power.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

#10133
Roland Roberts
Brooklyn, NY



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I made some mods to your circuit. With this circuit, Q1 will go directly to the load. With the load there, Q2 will turn on, it's collector will go low. The output of U1-D will be high, so U1-B and U1-C will invert the other input. If the load is shorted, Q2 will be off and the input to U1-D will be high - it's output low. So the inputs to U1-B and U1-C will be low - this will force the outputs high and turns off Q1.

Schneids
Redgranite, WI


Arduino isn’t Keeno October 2013

I developed a great project in Processing and then — when I went to port it to the Arduino — it didn't fit. Is there a utility for Processing or some way of telling when I'm close to the hardware limits of the Arduino?

#10132
Don Hyland
via email


Moving to SMT October 2013

I want to move to SMT components. Do I need a hot air reworking station, or just a hot air station? Can you recommend something for someone with a small budget?

#10131
Rich Strauss
Birmingham, AL



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I have had very good luck using “regular” soldering techniques, with the correct solder and flux. Set the component in place, solder pins on diagonally opposite corners. If it's not straight enough, straighten it out while there are only two pins soldered.


The link I've included shows the result from using a toaster oven, with modifications, to solder a whole board at one time. There are a number of video's on You Tube showing how to convert a toaster oven. The options are to manipulate the temperature profile manually, or you can use a thermocouple and a small computer such as an Arduino to automate the temperature profile.

 


I'm still doing the soldering manually.

Ray Perry
Jacksonville, FL


Convert USB Webcam into Analog Video Source October 2013

Used USB webcams are a dollar a dozen these days — much cheaper than native analog-out cameras (i.e., "security" cams). Is it possible or feasible to convert the USB cams to analog out? I presume it depends on the video chip used in the webcam — whether it has USB integrated or if that's a function of the small PCB on which it's attached. Any pointers, tips, advice, etc., would be greatly appreciated.

#10139
Dave T
Raleigh, NC



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Unless the webcam's PCB has an explicitly-labeled location called video or similar on the PCB, you'll have to use an oscilloscope to locate the raw video feed to the USB encoder chip. If there doesn't appear to be a raw video signal anywhere on the PCB, then you're out of luck.


Otherwise, once you locate that raw video point, simply get a length of shielded cable (the thinner the better) terminated with an RCA jack and (carefully) solder the center conductor to the raw video point on the PCB and the shield to a power ground location on the PCB. Insulate the shield to prevent unwanted shorts and keep it as short as possible.


Carve a notch in the webcam's body to feed the cable through, close up the webcam, and plug it into an active USB port. You should now be able to connect a shielded cable to the new RCA jack and run it to the YELLOW JACK of your video monitor and see what the camera is picking up.

Ken Simmons
Auburn, WA

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