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Sweep Generator Range March 2014

I have a Heathkit sweep generator 1274 which I bought with the hope I could quickly determine the frequency response of amplifiers I play with from time to time. However, there is no way to determine the range of the pattern on my scope — at least none that I have figured out. I’m not very advanced in such matters. Is there any easy way to add blips to the pattern say at 12 kHz and or 15 kHz?

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Alan May
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Capacitor Forming March 2014

I pulled some excellent quality electrolytic capacitors from the power supply of an amplifier. The capacitors are rated at 40 VDC but were used in a 10V circuit. I wanted to use the capacitors in a 24 VDC circuit, but I was told that the capacitors "formed" at 10V and wouldn't work at 24 VDC, regardless of the original rating. Is this true?

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Jacob McClure
Tallahassee, FL



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True, aluminum capacitors will deform with years of operation at reduced voltage (or no voltage). The typical aluminum capacitor will have a leakage current that increases with capacitance and voltage. A 40 µF 40V cap would have leakage in the order of 2 µA.


To test your capacitor, connect it through a 10K resistor to 24 volts (or 40 volts if it is available); if the voltage rises to 24 volts or more, it is okay. If not, leave it connected until the voltage does rise above 24 volts. You can use a smaller resistor to speed up the process, but don't let the cap get hotter than 50 degrees C.

Russell Kincaid
Milford, NH

Short answer... maybe.


You can often reform electrolytic capacitors by slowly ramping the voltage up, or above, your expected voltage. Keep a current meter in series and measure the charge current (after you have reached your top voltage. It should be in the microamp to low milliamp range for a good capacitor. If its higher than a milliamp or two you have a cap that is breaking down (high leakage).


Remember, low voltage electrolytic caps are pretty cheap so don't get caught by false economy.

Perry Ogletree
Murfreesboro, TN


Motor Kickback March 2014

I am using an Ametek 965922-101 brushed DC motor (rated 38V nominal, 12A peak) in a project that runs it as both a drive and a brake.  (Interestingly, the 38V rating is a "bus rating," i.e., with the motor stalled at 38V, it will use 12A and get nothing done.) In drive mode, the controller typically runs it up to 60V; current limited to 10A. Works great.


For the brake, I am using an IRFB260 MOSFET with a 0.6 ohm spring in series to limit the surge current. The PWM rate is 120 Hz.  (NOTE: When sinking 1/2 HP of energy, the motor generates 30V.)  However, each time the MOSFET turns off (at 120 Hz), the motor provides a huge kickback, and the MOSFET's reverse-protection zener diode probably will not survive that for very long.


At first, I paralleled the motor with an Elite 100 µF 400V capacitor [marked PM 105°C, (M 9305)] which calmed down the splash nicely. Then one day after some generous usage, a huge cloud of smoke boiled out of a severely melted capacitor. It was a very abrupt introduction to the (unmarked) ripple current rating on capacitors. At the moment, I'm just using the same 4,700 µF 100V bolt-mounted huge capacitor that filters the drive circuit. (When using the 100 µF capacitor, one of the relay contacts would switch the 4,700 µF capacitor out of the circuit.) However, the 0.64 ohm brake circuit discharges the capacitor so quickly (at 120 Hz) that brake control is either none or a lot.


The challenges are that the kickback is positive, it needs to be kept under 200V, and there is a lot of energy behind the kick from this motor. I ended up with 100 µF in the first place because a large (non-electrolytic) 10 µF capacitor did very little to the splash, which almost immediately would go beyond the 250V rating of the oscilloscope. In my parts bin are some large diodes such as DTV32, STPR1020CT (2), STPR2045CT (2), TYN058, and others, if that helps. I've read a little about snubber circuits, but would like some technical advice.


On the schematic in Figure 1, the +5V and ground points belong to an isolated 5V 1A cell phone charger.  Not shown is the PIC16F747 and associated circuitry that handles the controlling.

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Tsidqah
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Quickly braking an electric motor requires a circuit that will quickly dissipate quite a bit of energy. Texas Instruments has produced a paper, "The Art of Stopping a Motor," available at http://e2e.ti.com/blogs_/b/motordrivecontrol/archive/2013/10/18/the-art-of-stopping-a-motor.aspx. TI also has motor control dev kits that offer braking circuits and techniques that might help in Tsidqah's circuit. The kit documentation usually includes code and circuits. The Microchip Technology application note, AN-905, "Brushed DC Motor Fundamentals," offers a way to provide a shunt to ground that brakes a motor: http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/00905B.pdf.


I suggest the designer replace the 4PDT relay with a MOSFET H-bridge circuit that offers more flexibility for various braking applications. Also, real time voltage and current measurements taken during braking with a load resistance should help determine the characteristics needed in a braking load and switching circuits. As for a testing load, consider a non-electronic clothes iron or a toaster oven.

Jon Titus
Herriman, UT

If I assume that RLY1 is not connected to short out the power supply  and is shown de-energized, when RLY1 is energized, the motor connections will be reversed and the motor (acting as a generator) will try to drive the positive rail of the supply more positive. C4 will soak up some of the reverse current and when Q1 is turned on, it will limit the voltage to about 12 volts (1 ohm x 12 amps). Input to the power supply has to be turned off at this time.


There are two problems: During the transition time of RLY1 when the motor is not connected to anything, the voltage will shoot to the moon, possibly damaging the motor, and the delay time in PCB17 may not turn on Q1 in time to limit the voltage below 200 volts. One solution is to connect a 12 amp diode and series resistor across the motor to limit the voltage to 200 volts (R = 200V/12A = 16 ohms). A 75 watt light bulb would no doubt work as the resistor.

Russell Kincaid
Milford, NH

I'm not sure what you are doing with the 4PDT relay as shown, so maybe it is a drawing error. The way it is shown, the motor feed and motor are both shorted! For motor reversal you only need a 2PDT relay. If you are paralleling contacts for increased current, that's a bad idea since there is no guarantee the contacts will open or close in unison, so in effect, one contact will still carry the load. Paralleling for redundency is also not good because if a contact welds itself, bad things can happen when the parallel contact switches.


I assume since there is no logic flow provided, that the 'TRIG' signal goes low before the 'EBRK' signal goes high, and what about some protection for the input to the opto-isolator U6. Likely the spike is exceding LED PRV rating. I would think clamping diode(s) would help with the CEMF and perhaps an R/C as well. Hope this helps!

Len Powell
Finksburg, MD


Laser Cutter To 3D Printer February 2014

I want to move from a mill to a 3D printer to fabricate parts for my projects. As far as printing materials go, I've heard that regular plastic is toxic and print quality is poor, and that the PLA alternative is brittle and heavy. What's the best printing material out there? Are there better choices?

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Alec Litmar
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3-D printers (aka rapid prototyping machines) and laser cutters are very different animals. The laser cutter can be used to "machine" metals by laser ablation of the surfaces. A 3-D printer (such as MakerBot) uses a curable plastic powder or filament for producing layer upon layer renditions of whatever you draw on a Computer Aided Drawing (CAD) system.


Polyethylene Terephthalate (PET) filaments produce stronger products than the usual ABS plastic materials (A UT Austin student reportedly made a working pistol out of ABS but I am not sure I would want to trust my safety to the strength of plastic in this case).


The replicator (3-D printer) will run about $3,000. MakerBot also sells a digitizer for about $1,000 which allows you to reproduce an existing product by scanning it into the computer versus the laborious process of producing a 3-D CAD drawing. Using the Replicator and the Digitizer/CAD system together makes it possible to produce nearly anything you can imagine as long as it fits into the 3-D printer. I have seen a complete ball bearing set made as one piece (no assembly required) on a old 3-D printer which moved exactly like a metal bearing produced by sophisticated machining processes but the plastic did not have the strength to hold up in service. I can see using ceramic materials which can be fired to produce strength as a future wave in 3-D printing

Tim Brown PhD EE, PE
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Traffic Detector February 2014

I live in the country on a side road that tee's into a busy arterial. The arterial curves sharply to the left, offering only about 100 feet of visibility. Most of my trips involve turning left, thus crossing one lane of oncoming traffic. A car coming around the curve at 60 MPH gives me a little over one second reaction time when it first becomes visible.


At night, I can see oncoming headlights reflecting off a guardrail which gives me plenty of warning. During the day, I roll down my window and listen. However, this is not the best method with my aging hearing. I'm looking for a clever electronic solution to detect approaching cars and provide an earlier warning.


There is a pole on the other side of the road about 75 feet away that could be used to mount a device to bounce a signal off of. I'm new to electronics but if “steered” in a useful direction I can do the research and make it work. Any ideas?

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Curtis Erpelding
Port Orchard, WA



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Why not ask the city to place a mirror? In Belgium you see those on many places.

Camillus Blockx
KNOX

I see a couple of problems with your idea of a Traffic Detector. First of all, the "pole on the other side of the road" belongs to a utility company and they are usually pretty adamant about "devices" being installed on their poles (for years, my Father tried to wrap a pole with sheets of 16 gauge aluminum to keep squirrels out of a pecan tree and the power company had him remove the sheets pronto). If the company allows you to put up a "target" to bounce a signal from, there is still the problem of aligning the "target" such that any size vehicle would be picked up EVERY time (or your safety would be compromised by a missed vehicle). Using sonar to "bounce off a target" most likely would not work and using radar would get into issues with the FCC, plus the need for Doppler signal processing to ensure you detect only moving vehicles and not plants or stationary devices (aka very complicated digital signal processing and VERY costly).


Since you are using your hearing now to detect approaching vehicles why not use a Super Ear Listening device ($29.50 at www.amazon.com/SuperEar-Personal-Amplifier-Listening-Compliance/dp/B000X2H8G4/ref=pd_sim_hi_1/182-4508871-5045937) or the Bionic Ear and Booster set for even better results ($155.99 at  www.amazon.com/Bionic-Ear-And-Booster-Set/dp/B0012N6GZ2). Building either of these devices would require lots of electronic/construction skills (not for the novice since the SuperEar uses a highly directional microphone and the Bionic Ear uses a parabolic reflector), adjustment/alignment of the device to ensure accurate identification of approaching vehicles would be critical, and the cost of construction more than likely would equal or exceed the cost of a proven manufactured device. I am an old school electronics person and love building, but when safety is a concern it is best to use a proven device rather than a home brew.

Tim Brown PhD EE, PE
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Curtis, contact your local road department. Around here in SE KY they put up fairly large convex mirrors for just the problem you asked about.

B Jim Russell N4ICU
KY

You might want to look at using a microwave doppler sensor which you can find at DX.com searching for: Jtron HB100 10.525GHz Microwave Doppler Wireless Radar / Detector Probe Sensor. It is less than $10.


A pair could be used to detect vehicles approaching from either direction. The sensor could have a solar panel charging a battery, a low power receiver which you would trigger with a transmitter when you approach the intersection, which then would turn on the two radar transmitters, one first, then the other. If traffic is sensed the unit could flash a bright red LED, otherwise it could flash the green LED and time out after a minute or so.


There is no need to be transmitting radar signals all the time, this wastes battery power. Powering a receiver which then turns on the doppler sensors offers much less constant power draw, thereby making the power demands less challenging. For the RF link, one could hack a receiver/transmitter that is intended as a mailbox monitor or driveway monitor. Each has a receiver circuit that has modest power draw and are available for reasonable cost.

Arlen Raasch
Fredericksburg, VA

How about mounting a box with a doppler radar module (ebay search "doppler radar module") mounted on the pole across the road, in a plastic box, with an LED to indicate when the doppler detects a car? The modules cost under $10 from the far east. Biggest problem I can see is providing power. If mains power is not available you could use a solar panel and rechargeable battery. You need to check local laws regarding possible licensing of the doppler transmitter and get permission of the pole's owner.

Robert Atkinson
Cambridge, UK


Telescope Position Control January 2014

I'm looking for a motor drive for my 6" refractor telescope. A stepper motor should give me position control, but big steppers are expensive. DC motors are cheaper, but require a complex gear box and a sensor to determine position. Is there an affordable option that provides me with the positioning benefits of a stepper? My telescope and camera back weigh about 6 lbs total.

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Alex Forsyth
Columbus, OH



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Telescope position control is not for the faint at heart. First of all, the controller must be able to move the telescope in Azimuth (in a circle around the scope) and elevation (vertical angle from the horizon to the point above the scope - zenith) and convert these angles to the celestial equivalents of latitude and longitude called Declination and Right Ascension, respectively.


You must start with the telescope aligned with the Earth's axis of rotation which can be accomplished by sighting Polaris (the North Star). Then the telescope position controller must be able to track the object you are interested in by countering the Earth's rotational motion.


Before tackling building a positioning controller, (not an easy feat involving electronics, mechanical systems and programming) look at Celestron (www.celestron.com), Meade (www.meade.com) or Gemini (www.bisque.com/help/theskyv6/telescope/Gemini_by_Losmandy_Instruments.htm). Both companies make telescope positioners for a variety of telescope sizes and types.

Tim Brown PhD EE, PE
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Why would you use a big stepper to drive a telescope? Surely you are not considering a direct connection to the telescope's polar axis? That would produce a very jerky motion instead of the smooth motion needed for observation or photography. Therefore, you still need gears and you really need a high ratio worm gear or a series of compound gears to get a high reduction ratio. A relatively small stepper or DC motor will then work just fine.


Amateur telescope makers have used a wide variety of drive mechanisms. I have seen worm drives made by wrapping a threaded rod around a wood disk to form the "teeth". A screw with the same thread pitch can be used to drive it. If the scope is well balanced, little torque is needed to drive it. On the other hand, second hand worm wheels can often be found in places like ebay and other resellers.


Since a telescope moves at such a slow rate, some are driven by a cord or wire or strip of metal that is wrapped around a wheel instead of a gear. The cord/wire/strip is pulled by a nut that runs on a threaded rod that is turned by the motor. Since you can track from sunset to sunrise with only a half turn of the polar axis, you don't even need the full circle on that wheel. A fast mode or a nut that can be released would allow faster resetting for another observation.

Paul Alciatore
Beaumont, TX


Radio Schematics Needed January 2014

I found an old transistor radio in my parent's attic. It's one of the first transistor radios made by RCA. Is there a good source for schematics on old radios and other electronics? I've tried the usual Google searches, but turned up nothing.

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Bruce Tinney
Tuscaloosa, AL



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Have you tried SAMS Photofact?: www.theschematicman.com - They probably had one for that radio, it's in the correct time frame. You'll need the make (RCA) and model number, perhaps even a version number on the circuit board. But, I don't know about radios, it did help when I was working on TVs.

Phil Karras, KE3FL
Mount Airy, MD

Rider schematics were published up to 1954, too early to have included your radio which was probably made in the early 1960s. Howard W. Sams photofact service folders started in 1946 and may be still in production. I have an index which I believe I downloaded from www.servicesoftware.com in 2010. It lists 16,283 RCA schematics of radios, televisions, record players, and the like so if a schematic of your radio exists, it should be there. All you need is the model number to find it. I don't know the cost to download a schematic but it is not free.


You can also check  https://www.samswebsite.com/

Russell Kincaid
Milford, NH

Whether it's an old radio, TV, test instrument, audio gear — anything "antique", including older transistor radios, go to www.antiqueradios.com and check out their forum, especially under the section "transistor radios". This is the best source for help with antique electronics anywhere on the Internet.

Dean Huster
Harviell, MO


Smartphone Compass January 2014

My smartphone has a built-in compass that seems to be unaffected by local metal structures or magnets.  Is the phone using cell tower triangulation or some other method to determine direction? If so, does the phone indicate true north or magnetic north?

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Robin Stahl
Cincinnati, OH



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All smartphones include a GPS and it would get the direction information from it, from the satellites. Try turning the GPS off to see what happens.

Phil Karras, KE3FL
Mount Airy, MD


Prototype to Production January 2014

After about five years of building prototypes, I've finished the design for a device that I believe can be sold to the masses. What's my next step? Is it worth spending money on a patent attorney? Is there a clearing house of sorts that connects developers in the US with production houses in China?  Has anyone been down this road and care to share their experience?

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Jeremy Williams
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While I do not have an answer to your question about bringing a product to market, I know my self and others would be interested. If someone does give you the answers/help that you need would it be possible to keep a journal on the process and maybe submit an article to Nuts & Volts on how the process went for you. It may inspire others that have designs/prototypes to get theirs on the market.

Good luck in your endeavors.

Craig Kielhofer
Des Moines, IA


Which Way Should I Go? January 2014

I'm new to electronics, recently retired, and in need of some direction.  Should I spend my time learning about resistors, capacitors, and transistors, or start with an Arduino or other microcontroller?

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Dan Johnson
Oceanside, CA



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In answer to your question — Yes you should learn about electronics fundamentals along with learning about microprocessors.


You need to have an understanding of the basics, however you do not need to get a degree in electrical engineering.


Your best bet is to check out your local library and see if they have any books dealing with electronics fundamentals. You may want to see if they have a copy of the ARRL Amateur Radio Handbook, they also have a book titled Understanding Basic Electronics which will help you get started. I don't know whether or not  you have your ham license but you may want to see if there is an amateur radio club in your area and get your self an "Elmer," which is ham radio talk for a mentor, as most hams that I know of are willing to pass on the knowledge they have acquired.


There are also several groups on Yahoo devoted to beginners which are worth joining.


Good luck in your endeavors.

Craig Kielhofer
Des Moines, IA

Starting learning electronics with discrete components (resistors, capacitors, diodes, etc) or microcontrollers is a good question. Fortunately you can choose to start with either and be successful due to modern kits and the Internet. If you are "into" programming in C language, microcontrollers would be a good place to start.


To start in the microcontroller field, I would start with the BasicStamp. Parallax (www.parallax.com) has some good starter kits which supply the microcontroller, breadboard and other components to perform the experiments they have well documented in the enclosed manual. After gaining proficiency with the BasicStamp, you can move up to the Arduino (http://makerzone.mathworks.com/arduino) or Propeller (www.parallax.com). Nuts and Volts has projects every month on microcontroller type systems which can also be used to further your self-training.

If you don't feel comfortable with programming, learning the basics of electronics may be the place to start. Googling "electronics tutorials" will show you a number of FREE websites which offer electronics training for beginners. Also The Nuts and Volts Webstore sells books and kits to help you learn electronics.

Electronics is a neat field to study. It is not easy. It is not for everyone. But anyone who is looking for a challenge, electronics is the place to be. Whether you start with basic components or microcontrollers, you will eventually see the need to learn about the other field. Microcontrollers use basic electronic components to function as a system and often it is advantageous to replace a "kludge" of electronic components with a microcontroller app.

Tim Brown PhD EE, PE
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